tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8149296713213520917.post717782233361965774..comments2023-11-25T01:16:22.368+00:00Comments on DAILY REFERENDUM: Michael Gove is so wrong about "Lads Mags"Daily Referendumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00899003349232334603noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8149296713213520917.post-17529623646237368412008-08-12T10:38:00.000+01:002008-08-12T10:38:00.000+01:00If I remember rightly, Victorian Dad was fond of "...If I remember rightly, Victorian Dad was fond of "What the Butler Saw" and photographic prints sent from his brother, which he perused in the bathroom because the light was better...Bill Haydonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08357811679771159469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8149296713213520917.post-41341558975902317192008-08-05T04:13:00.000+01:002008-08-05T04:13:00.000+01:00I don't think it's sex education so much as a gene...I don't think it's sex education so much as a general lack of any education other than the 'blameless, shameless', 'do as you will, as long as you get your rocks off' ethos you've alluded to.<BR/><BR/>As an anarchically inclined leftie of a distinctly atheist hue I'm very wary of pontificating on 'morals'. and thus risk accusations of 'moral relativism', but I do think that a harsh dose of consequences might be successful in stopping the rot, whatever one's morals.William Gruffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434757003701117714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8149296713213520917.post-65726066299693821642008-08-04T18:59:00.000+01:002008-08-04T18:59:00.000+01:00Mr Gruff,I very dare you! Don't you know that we ...Mr Gruff,<BR/><BR/>I very dare you! Don't you know that we live in a blameless, shameless society and anyone can do anything they like. <BR/><BR/>I don't know what we can now do - our morals have been eroded beyond repair.<BR/><BR/>I still think that sex ed' has done real damage to this country.Daily Referendumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00899003349232334603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8149296713213520917.post-64987830669408456552008-08-04T18:19:00.000+01:002008-08-04T18:19:00.000+01:00It's easy to blame 'lads' as men, especially very ...It's easy to blame 'lads' as men, especially very young men, really can't 'be arsed' to reply and have no 'industry' geared up to whine on their behalf. Surely the problem, apropos of teenage pregnancies, is that young women, having been brought up by mothers who were themselves brought up on a diet of magazines that proclaimed a woman's absolute right to do absolutely what she wants whenever she wants, without regard for the consequences, simply cannot keep their legs shut, especially when their thighs are lubricated with copious amounts of alcohol (for which, often, they have not paid), and now behave like sluts?William Gruffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434757003701117714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8149296713213520917.post-58016279062390120222008-08-04T18:15:00.000+01:002008-08-04T18:15:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.William Gruffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434757003701117714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8149296713213520917.post-53021070308124637732008-08-04T17:04:00.000+01:002008-08-04T17:04:00.000+01:00I can sort of see your point about 'these girls' n...I can sort of see your point about 'these girls' not being exploited. I don't agree with it, but (some of them) are making (some) money, so I can see your line of argument.<BR/><BR/>But I don't think that's the point. Where I agree with Grove (if I'm not mis-quoting him) is the effect this stuff has on men's view of ALL women, and specifically the one they have relationships with, and that this stuff has a detrimental effect on men's view of women.<BR/><BR/>But going after the lads mag is a cowardly shot. If this is a point worth making, then surely the home of page 3 is the real target?<BR/><BR/>Lads mags sell 500k a week. The Sun 2m+ evry day.<BR/><BR/>'Murdoch to blame for family breakdown' not likley to get traction at Tory HQ though, eh?quiteliterallytalkingbollockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03425574319173495448noreply@blogger.com