Monday, 8 June 2009

24 hours of Labour AND Conservative lies.

I've spent most of the last 24 hours feeling both sick (I have some bloody bug that's doing the rounds) and angry.

I've been angry at the amount of lies that politicians have been spewing out on our TV screens. Unfortunately it's not just Labour, my party has also been at it. "What's new?" you may ask - "don't they always lie?". Well what has got me so miffed is the scale of the lies.

The Labour party are willing to put heir pathetic results down to being greedy pigs rather than the truth which is that people are fed up of Gordon Brown, their policies, the failure to give us a referendum, incompetence, poor leadership..... the list goes on. No - it's much better to blame it all on expenses. At first the story was that "the people were angry with politicians for the expenses fiasco". When it became clear that the Tories were holding their share of the vote, the story changed to "we are getting more than our fair share of the blame".

Labour MPs also tried to blame the recession for their poor performance - until it became clear that the leading parties in other European countries were doing well - that line was soon dropped.

Now to the Tories: We did well in the European elections, but the media were able to say that we did not do as well as expected. Why was this? Not one Conservative or UKIP MP/MEP would speak the truth last night. The truth is that the Conservatives lost a massive amount of votes to UKIP. The Conservative MPs did not want to explain why so many Tories voted UKIP and UKIP did not want to admit that their results were being artificially pumped up by unhappy Tories.

It's all down to David Cameron being unable to promise a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty after it gets ratified. I guarantee that had David promised that referendum then the Conservative vote would have shot up and UKIP's would have collapsed.

And that is the inconvenient truth for the Conservative party.


Tory Poppins said...

Oh completely true.
The Europe issue was basically the root of all evil last night.

The BNP got in because Labour supporters are hacked off with the governments pro-European policy and mass immigration.

UKIP got in because Cameron is NOT tough enough on Europe. The Tories DESPERATELY need to sort this out before the next election. They need to plan for the possibility that the treaty will be ratified before they get in next year, and think about exactly what they're going to do about it. It's a definite vote winner/loser - depending on what they do.

Daily Referendum said...


I was watching the coverage last night and I'm sure that I wasn't the only one to see a massive elephant hanging about in the background.

Catosays said...

Yup, I have to say that despite being a Tory Party member, I voted for UKIP in the Euros to send Dave a message.
As you say, Europe is the problem and had he promised a referendum come hell or high water his share of the vote would have been astronomical.
I fail to understand why he can't grasp such a simple truth. The British public, generally, do not want to be in the's as simple as that.

Daniel1979 said...

I agree Steve, but I do not see the Conservative leadership changing the party line anytime soon.

It’s a shame, because the potential of a modern Conservative Party that wants the UK to be governed from within the UK, but with a wide reaching & broad foreign & trade policies would be phenomenal.

Andrew Allison said...

Steve: You are absolutely correct. Everyone is pussy-footing around the European problem. I voted Conservative, just like you. I did it because I had to remain loyal to the party I am a member of, but it doesn't mean I agree with the European policy. I really am sick and tired of having to defend the indefensible. We need to get back to the Common Market, and rid ourselves of the EU.

I am also very angry that Labour has given us this ridiculous form of PR that allows the BNP (who polled under 10% of the vote here in Yorkshire) a seat in the European Parliament.

I can go on, but I think you get the idea.

Daily Referendum said...

I don't blame Cameron. Promising a referendum is easier said than done.

I starting to believe that Brown has agreed to step down after ratification. That would do the most damage to Cameron.

Mulligan said...

Brown won't agree to step down under any circumstances - there's a whole world out there that needs saving, whether it likes it or not.

Anonymous said...

Yes I too think the media and politicians do not want to talk about the EU issue. It must be clear to them that the majority of UK voters are not happy with the current situation, every opinion poll conducted clearly shows this. I would have voted Tory if Cameron would have displayed some courage and guaranteed a referendom on the issue. If the Tories line on Euro is not to my liking come the general election I shall be voting UKIP again.

Peter Thomas said...

Yes. I think you are right. I spoke to quite a few people who said they would vote UKIP here in the East Midlands - all would normally vote Tory.

Also, the feedback I got from the Council elections locally showed that in these elections too, voters were concerned about the Government's policies on immigration and the EU, as well as the expenses scandal.

I'm new to blogging but you may like to look at my local blog on "the significance of the council election results."

Anonymous said...

If the Tories had the same position on the Common Market as UKIP I would have voted Conservative in the Euros.

The Morningstar said...

I left the conservative party after deciding that none of the mainstream parties truly represents me.

I have to say that you are right though, DC has failed a simple test. I know a referendum after ratification would be a political bombshell, but it is the only way to deliver a definite election win for the tories. After all, we were promised a referendum and we didn't get one.

Pulling out of the treaty after a no vote, even after ratification, is simply the result of giving the British people what they were promised.

Sean Lynch said...

I think you are disappointed Steve that the "plot" to oust Brown was a figment of journalistic licence.
Shit for brains, that is what we are dealing with, they are Labour MP's after all, did we seriously believe that these brainless pygmies would kill their glorious Marxist leader and put themselves on the dole!
Brown will go on to the bitter end tripping over his lines and making an arse of himself, he can't change.
He may try to get the Liberal socialists onside with waffle about electoral and constitutional reform, but it will just be more Brown blunderland for another 12 months!

Wurzel said...

That's why I like Twitter. I made the same point yesterday but in only (restricted to) 140 characters ;-)

"Wurzel62: Add up votes for UKIP BNP etc. Almost 4 million. Now GUARANTEE us a referendum and I'm sure most of those will be yours @Conservatives"

James Higham said...

I've been angry at the amount of lies that politicians have been spewing out on our TV screens. Unfortunately it's not just Labour, my party has also been at it. "What's new?" you may ask - "don't they always lie?". Well what has got me so miffed is the scale of the lies.

Steve, you and I are both conservatives but where we've differed is that I have zero respect for party politics. It must always end up as you've stated here.

Sue said...

That's why UKIP got my vote! I was very disappointed in Camerons "doubletalk".. you know, the one where he said "if it had not yet been ratified"... I lost all faith in him from then on in...

Dave said...

I voted Tory in the County Council Elections and UKIP in the Euro Elections- like most of the comments here.
All well and good. I believe that we'd be better off out of Europe.

Come the election I have a problem. Philip Hollobone is an excellent MP and his majority is slim. Who do I vote for?

If I vote UKIP the chances are that Labour will win the seat.

Do I just abstain?